Isa Guha interviewing Chris Marshall, post Brisbane Test

Peter Kettle | 2:15pm GMT 26 November 2025

Within the latest Stick with Cricket podcast, Michael Vaughan, Phil Tufnell and Mike Hussey debated how this present Ashes sequence would possibly unfold, and particularly the primary Check in Perth – seen as a signpost.

Properly, this preliminary Check – as possible all of you realize now – was outdoors the field and landed firmly Australia’s approach.

Right here, Peter Kettle seems forward to the second Check in Brisbane – and to its imagined conclusion and the top of match ceremonies.

Isa Guha, the previous England Check participant, and at present tv commentator, is interviewing Chris Marshall – the sports activities psychologist to the England males’s Check squad, having been appointed in June 2024.

IG: After hanging on right here in Brisbane for a draw – helped by thunderstorms that delayed play for a great whereas on days 4 and 5 – it’s been a courageous comeback by England after the shell-shock of Perth. Chris, what has been your individual function in all this?

CM: Properly, earlier than we set out for this journey down-under, Isa, the boys benefitted tremendously from periods of psychoanalysis that I persuaded Mike Brearley to carry out on the sofa in his London NW3 abode. They obtained to have a great have a look at themselves…inwardly. Nothing was spared. Fairly gruelling, really, for a variety of them. That was all through most of September and all of October.

IG: Good to listen to England have spared nothing in getting ready for this Ashes sequence, Chris.

CM: My phrase, sure! Golf is nice preparation, most actually, and so are late nights in town to assist unwind. However, for my cash, you possibly can’t beat the psychoanalyst’s sofa.

IG: And in Australia, Chris, are you able to inform our viewers what you’ve been doing to get the England boys in the proper mind set?

CM: Certain, Isa…a very powerful factor I do for them is to learn a narrative as they cool down to fall asleep. That’s often after a 5 – 6 course dinner and loads of scrumptious native white and pink wine, adopted by some disco dancing at a high evening membership. The story telling occurs at round 3 or 4 o’clock within the morning.

IG: I see…what kind of tales, Chris?

CM: Principally excerpts from Alice in Wonderland…marvellous escapism. Nothing too actual. The boys have had sufficient of that in the course of the day.

IG: So that they’ve been seeping fairly properly, I think about, Chris along with your bedside attentions.

CM: Fairly properly right here in Brisbane, Isa. Although again in Perth, a variety of the boys had nasty nightmares – feeling themselves going through Warnie on the MCG and never having a clue about what’s popping out of his hand. Or pinned to the crease whereas Malcolm Marshall is sending down nose-crushing, in need of a size, stuff within the West Indies. However they’re just about over that now.

IG: Good to listen to!

CM: I’ve additionally been getting the boys to observe some movies…that is at breakfast time…movies of web periods the place they’re batting rather well. At these apply periods, their very own moms are watching, sitting on benches to at least one aspect, and as their son comes out after doing his stuff they warmly embrace him – reassuring him about simply how good he’s on the worldwide stage.

IG: Wow…that’s an innovation in utilized sports activities psychology, I think about, Chris.

CM: Very a lot so! I’ve really gone as far as to get Boycs to play an element. He sits in a deckchair because the boys enter the nets to do their batting, consuming an ice cream and smiles broadly at every one in every of them, doing so  in an avuncular method.

IG: Instilling much more confidence.

CM: Precisely!

IG: Sensible, Chris…could I want you all the very best for Adelaide and for the actually huge one – the standard Boxing Day Check in Melbourne.

CM: We’ll be kicking arse on the MCG, don’t you are worried about that, Isa.

IG: And now over to you, Adam Gilchrist, for the post-match displays…..